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Enjoy the Sucker's Rally, Says Merrill's Rosenberg

Posted Mar 19, 2009 01:52pm EDT by Henry Blodget in Investing, Recession

From The Business Insider, March 19, 2009:

Merrill's economist David Rosenberg, who was well ahead of his peers in calling the meltdown, reiterates his view that this is a sucker's rally.

Why?

A bunch of reasons, the most compelling of which is that even the $1.2 trillion of debt the Fed is buying pales in comparison to the $8 trillion of private sector debt that is choking the economy.

David Rosenberg:

[The Fed's purchase of $300 billion of Treasuries] is equivalent to nearly 20% of this year’s bond borrowing requirement. As a stand-alone event we think this is worth 75-100 basis points of interest rate reduction (so today’s post-meeting 50bp rally takes us between one-quarter and half-way there). We also believe that the risk to this program size is clearly to the upside...

Fed’s announcement less bullish for equities, in our view.
But the equity market, which had already been enjoying a classic short-covering rally accentuated by quarter-end pressures, also reacted very positively to the Fed’s announcement today and at one point the S&P 500 looked set to break above the 800 threshold for the first time since mid-February. We are of the view that what occurred this afternoon was less bullish for the equity market than meets the eye. Here’s why:

1) Fed buying bonds not stocks. The Fed announced that it is buying bonds, not stocks. This is not the HKMA, circa 1998.

2) Government cannot prevent nature from taking its course.
While an additional $1.15 trillion expansion of the Fed’s balance sheet is large as a stand-alone event, it really is just a drop in the bucket when one considers that there is still almost $8 trillion of combined household and business sector credit that must be unwound in order to mean-revert the private sector-to-GDP ratio (which is still close to a record-high). Once again, the government is cushioning the blow, but cannot prevent nature from taking its course, in our view.

3) Fed does not see a flicker of light at the end of tunnel just yet. The economic backdrop highlighted in today’s press statement makes us feel that much more confident that corporate earnings are going to slide again this year (to $40 for S&P 500 operating EPS from nearly $50 in 2008). To wit: “… the economy continues to contract … Job losses, declining equity and housing wealth, and tight credit conditions have weighed on consumer sentiment and spending. Weaker sales prospects and difficulties in obtaining credit have led businesses to cut back on inventories and fixed investment. US exports have slumped as a number of major trading partners have also fallen into recession”. Yikes. This is with the Fed funds rate effectively at zero. But it’s pretty clear that the Fed does not see any flicker of light at the end of the tunnel just yet. Mr. Market may be in for yet another surprise.

We remained convinced this is still a bear market rally.  We will say this. We do not claim to be market-timers. There is always the chance that this bear market rally is extended. Only a fool would rule that out entirely, we think. But we remain convinced that this is all it is. Does anyone remember what happened in the opening weeks after the BoJ switched to quantitative easing (QE) back on March 19th, 2001? The Nikkei closed at 12,190 that day and went on to rally all the way to 14,529 by May 7th for a nice 20% advance. But you only made money if your timing was so impeccable that you knew to get out that day (or sell calls) because we didn’t see that level on the Nikkei again for three years. In fact, by July 11th, 2001, four months after the ballyhooed move to QE, the Nikkei was back to 12,005 as the stock market pulled a big U-turn.

We still prefer bonds to cash and stocks
While quantitative easing was successful in Japan in terms of easing debtservicing strains by dragging long-term yields lower, with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, it is obvious that the move fell short of reversing the overall deflationary trend in the Japanese economy or the secular bear market in equities. For longterm investors who take a real business cycle view, this may be an important anecdote to consider as the Fed moves down the same path Japan did. In other words, we still prefer bonds to cash and stocks.

See also from The Business Insider:
Rogoff: Worst Over? Are You Kidding?
How Low Can The Market Go?

83 Comments

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:02PM EDT

Rosenburg? Isn't he the guy that said, "What's these here CDS thangs? Shouldn't we get involved in some of that?"

- Thursday March 19, 2009 02:04PM EDT

The unstated reality is, all large financial companies have some person or persons, or whole unit, working for them that are totally out of control, still betting the ranch every day, and no one knows it. Yes, even as we speak. All companies in the financial services industry are highly suspect because they have huge quantities of cash laying around and lots of way to manipulate their financial statements (manufacturing industries on the other hand usually have barely enough cash to pay bills their on time, and their business models are too transparent). CEOs in financial companies have no clue what is going on right under their noses. Years ago, Enron and Worldcom et al were our canaries in the mine. Smart money knew it after that, if not before.

franck s
franck s - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:04PM EDT

Lots of cash going to be there since Ben's latest helicopter ride.

Rich
Rich - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:07PM EDT

Every party needs a pooper, that's why I'm inviting you, Party pooper, party pooper. Every party needs a pooper, so it might as well be you, Party pooper, party pooper.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:08PM EDT

"Merrill's economist David Rosenberg, who was well ahead of his peers in calling the meltdown" Well, I guess Merrill Lynch thought very little of Mr Rosenberg's opinion of this incredible prediction....opps,sorry, I mean Bank of America/Merrill Lynch.

S
S - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:10PM EDT

Tech Ticker never seems to say anything positive in any way to support market confidence, the economy, or our government's efforts at this critical time to revive growth in our nation. And it seems to want to bring down the markets and investor confidence just when they start to point to a modest recovery. In my view, TT acts like a short-seller hedge fund mouth-piece, and I am surprised quite frankly that Yahoo has yet to pull the plug. (however, Ms. Bartz, there is still time)

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:14PM EDT

The suckers rally just started, I'm guessing it will top in a few weeks or a couple of months from now, but after that it's all down hill. Enjoy gambling your money while it lasts.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:14PM EDT

Wait, you're the economic expert from Merrill Lynch. You say this is a Bear Market rally so I should be selling. Then you say don't take my word for it. Then you say of an extended upside rally you say a fool would rule that out entirely" - so now I'm buying? Why doesn't anyone just come out with an opinion?

Rayster
Rayster - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:16PM EDT

He's a sucker.........

Baba Loo
Baba Loo - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:19PM EDT

Sure! Esp. from anyone associated with Merrill Lynch.

Tom
Tom - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:21PM EDT

Josh, there will be a big rally this summer. Sell mid-summer, it will be hard because market will still be headed north, but by late fall you will be glad you did. Thus sayeth Deto.

Yahoo! Finance User
Yahoo! Finance User - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:22PM EDT

Only a fool would buy into bonds at these low interest rates. Once inflation rises as a result of the government printing presses flooding the market, bonds bought today will be worthless, just like Rosenberg's advice.

giraffes
giraffes - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:24PM EDT

"The Nikkei closed at 12,190 that day and went on to rally all the way to 14,529 by May 7th for a nice 20% advance. But you only made money if your timing was so impeccable that you knew to get out that day " This doesn't make sense. You had to sell on the day of the peak to make any money? Huh?

Edward
Edward - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:24PM EDT

As an American who lived in Japan for several years, I really think comparing our economy to the Japanese economy to predict future trends is dubious at best. Totally different culture...

__A_YAHOO_USER__
__A_YAHOO_USER__ - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:25PM EDT

What's a VARMIT and who let Yosemite Sam in here to begin with?

Edward
Edward - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:26PM EDT

As an American who lived in Japan for several years, I really think comparing our economy to the Japanese economy to predict future trends is dubious at best. Totally different culture...

Reedersong
Reedersong - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:36PM EDT

The Fed buys stocks and bonds? So, they are not part of the gov.t?

TylerS
TylerS - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:37PM EDT

It is a SUCKERS RALLY because the TREASURY has been sticking it in your WALLET for YEARS!! OBAMA to UNCOVER the CONCPIRACY in 09!!

Popat
Popat - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:38PM EDT

Yikes! Another Merrill financial genius. He needs rope.

Tad
Tad - Thursday March 19, 2009 02:40PM EDT

What are Henry and Aaron doing lately? We're not getting any videos until the day is half over. You guys need to get on the ball.

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